Concerning Ecumenism? The people speak!

Concerning Ecumenism? The people speak!

Ecumenism is not a side issue. It is a matter of utmost importance that we resist the tide. Below are some of the people who have signed the petition to call Lausanne Consultation for Jewish Evangelism to renounce their ecumenism and to guarantee their abstinence from any ecumenical partnerships. They are all from different churches and ministries but that are all united in this belief that Ecumenism is a danger to the body of Christ.

 

Some of the Signatories of the Petition:

Ruth Nessim – CJF missionary inIsrael. http://www.cjfm.org

Miguel Hayworth – Director of First Plumbline Apologetics.

James Jacob Prasch – Director of Moriel Ministries international.

Keith Parker – Prayer for Israel

Geoffrey Toole – Moriel Missions Japan.

Alan Mackenzie – Road to Recovery Christian Fellowship.

Mark Van Niekerk – Hazorim. http://www.hazorim.org

Roger Winter-Smith – Stroud Green Christian Assembly

Chris De Wet – Moriel Ministries Bloemfontein

Jackie Alnor – Rapture Ready Radio presenter of Apostasy Alert programme.

Pastor Marco Quintana –Community Church of Devore

Scott Brisk– Moriel Be Alert

Cecil Andrews – Take Heed Ministries

Felipe Diez – Reforma Ministries

Pastor David Royle – Moriel Missions Southern Africa

Martin Emerson – Light in the Darkness

Dion Gary Knoesen – OfDiscipleship Ministries South Africa

John E Young – Pastor of Sulam Ya’aqov Messianic Fellowship

Geoffrey Farnell – Pastor of Ainsdale Evangelical Church

 

HERE ARE WHAT THE SIGNATORIES HAVE TO SAY:

 

Keith Parker

The danger of ecumenical involvement has been apparent to me for many years. I sincerely hope that LCJE and all other evangelical Christian ornanizations will be careful not to be involved with the Church of Rome…

I find it truly astonishing that Bible-Christians can accept Roman Catholicism as a legitimate expression of real Christianity. They seem to ignore the fact that the RC organization itself regards Protestants as outside the true church. They want us to accord to them what they will not accord to us.

 

Ruth Nessim

Comments: Do not leave the Reformers to have died in vain.Rome does not change its spots!

 

Kevin McKenna

Comments: I was saved by the Grace of God out of deathly clutch of Roman Catholicism. I join all those that stand against her false doctrine.

 

Miguel Hayworth

Comments: As Director of First Plumbline Apologetics we have been dealing with this issue for 5 years we do not believe because of the Nauture of the LCJE they will ever come out of the Lausanne Movement thus remain compromise since it first formed, please see, http://firstplumbline.net/html/lcje.html

 

Geoffrey Toole

Comments: Ecumenism is a subtle deception. If we do not take a strong stand against it, we will end up promoting it.

 

Mrs Amanda Hayworth

Comments: A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump. Galatians 5:9 — Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. Revelation 18:4

 

Lina Diquattro

Comments: ”And this I pray, that your love may abound still more and more in real knowledge and all discernment…” – Phillipians 1:9

 

Tony Beasley

Comments: Open message to accompany my petition signature I support the principle and therefore sign this petition, because I oppose New Evangelicalism’s un-Biblical compromises. The Lausanne Consultation on Jewish Evangelism (LCJE) is an integral part of the Lausanne Movement along with the sister group LCWE. These are very problematic for the Evangelical cause. WhereRome and Theological Liberalism could not gain acceptance by the direct approach upon Evangelicals, a counterfeit movement sprung up which called itself the New Evangelicals. They were so theologically broad and inclusive that they became an adversary to historic Evangelicals, whilst finding much common ground with the classic Ecumenical apostates. Eventually the prefix, ‘New’ was dropped and they went back to calling themselves Evangelical which although being a gross misnomer, allowed them to absorb themselves into the real thing, all the while carrying with them the corrosive perversions of Modernism that wrecked so many denominations in the late 19th century. There are many groups in this Liberal Evangelical Movement and the entire Lausanne Organisation typifies this ‘evangelical Trojan horse’. In a short time since 1980 LCJE has gained itself an ignominious résumé; not a surprise for a Liberal Evangelical organisation. (Work that one out if you can). However can a New Evangelical organisation vote against its own Neo-Evangelical principals and yet not have to disband? It seems very unlikely. It must be recognised that the LCJE is not an Evangelical organisation (in the correct meaning of this word). Therefore we may be asking the impossible of them. Would we say the same toRome , keep your structure and just reform your doctrines? “Semper Eadem” Comes the reply …… How so LCJE? The urgent alarm call to LCJE members and friends is: “Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues” Rev 18:4 The future of the Messianic movement hangs in the balance – PRAY!

 

Tony Piche

Comments: Ecumanism is a doctrine of man NOT God’s. Their is 1 God above all other God’s and That is the God of Israel. I petition LCJE to obey the Word of God rather than man, and disown the belief that there are many pathways to God. He declared their is only 1 (One).

 

Jeannot Floor

Comments: When Christ spoke of the Jews, He did not mean the Pharisees – please be not one of them and therefore seek the Lord your Yahweh with all your heart and with all your mind and with all your soul first. “Warn a divisive person once, and then warn them a second time. After that, have nothing to do with them.” (Titus 3:10) – you have obviously been warned many times, therefore for the last time: repent and be warned, for the Lord will turn His back on you also!

 

Leslie Crickmay

Comments: Jesus says that he who believes upon Him HAS eternal life. (John 3:36; 5:24; 6:47). The Popes disagree. The Roman church has a different gospel which teaches the exact opposite of what Jesus promised. Who will you believe?

 

David Horsfall

Comments: 2 Cor 6 (i) Light can not have fellowship with darkness”, (ii) Can not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers e.g. ecumenicals, liberals or catholics in the LCJE; (iii) For what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness = e.g. those that have compromised themselves; (iv) What communion hath light with darkness = Those who have compromised the gospel message; those in LCJE that are not even saved; those in LCJE that are from the catholic religion; those in LCJE that are liberals, have created an apostate mixture: a church (movement) that is not chaste (v) What concord hath Christ with Belial = the emerging church and the apostate whore of the Roman Catholic Church. If God is the same and never changes, then the same standard of purity, holiness is still required of Born believers today. No fellowship with whoredoms has Hosea points out. Is not LCJE has become a mixture of harlotry, as it was in days of old, polluting God’s congregation, Yeshua’s body with ‘leaven’. Yeshua warned His disciples to beware of leaven of the Pharisees, beware of deceivers coming in among, perverting the gospel, perverting true fellowship of the Saints. The God of Israel who gave Torah, also said in 2 Cor 6:17 COME OUT from them and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you. God says the same thing in Deutromony 23:14.So, if you profess to love God, love Yeshua love Torah, Love The Word of God, then you will realise just how much the LCJE grieves his Rauch HaKodesh, by remaining in this ungodly mixture. For the LORD thy God walketh in the midst of thy camp, to deliver thee, and to give up thine enemies before thee; therefore shall thy camp be holy: that he see no unclean thing in thee, and turn away from thee. He is the same God who requires chastity. COME OUT of this unchaste movement David Horsfall

 

Chris De Wet

Comments: Ecumenism is for the undiscerning and unlearned or disobedient.

 

Linda De Wet

Comments: The Bible very clearly does not support eccuminism. One reference is Psalm 2.

 

Johan Du Toit

Comments: Matt 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

 

Louis Ferreira

Comments: May Yashua open your hart David

 

Jackie Alnor

Comments: Bulletin #95 – 95? Where did I see that before – Luther comes to mind. The official position of the Roman Catholic Church is that they are the one and only true church. If you don’t agree with that, please don’t cozy up to her – she is not for you.

 

Sam Yassine

Comments: The Lord Jesus never ‘sat on the fence’.. and neither should His Disciples concern The Gospel

 

Mr Leslie Wood

Comments: Touch not the unclean Thing

 

Scott Brisk

Comments: Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness? – 2 Corinthians 6:14

 

Cecil Andrews (‘Take Heed’ Ministries)

Comments: Details of 3 public debates in Ireland on ‘The Eucharist’ in which I shall be participating in May 2012 (DV) can be found on this link
http://www.takeheed.net/Take_Heed_2011/Ministry_Updates/Review_Letter_December_2011.htm

 

Stacey Dames

Comments: It is on behalf of the true saints in the Lord Jesus Christ I speak, and also for His Word which endureth forever. Every true and faithful servant of the Lord Jesus Christ is to adhere to His truth and not man made doctrines.Rome preaches and teaches a false gospel with a false christ along with heavily encouraged works salvation. We as brothers and sisters in the Lord cannot and should not tolerate any media; whether it be television, books, movies, etc., that is contradictory to the Word or worse yet, promotes pagan rituals and traditions and attributes such blasphemy to the Lord. The Lord will not be mocked and all those engaging in the smallest amount of poison and mixing with truth are continuingBabylon andConstantine’s hybrid mixture of Christian paganism. Only a small amount of anthrax is needed to kill the body. How much more the soul? Even less. Eternity of hell awaits those who believe these wicked doctrines and yet many go to death’s door believing they have heard and know the truth. Hence the difference between having a relationship with Father God and mother church.Motherchurch is sending millions to hell and it is our duty as Bible believing and practicing Christians to take a stand against the ever pervasive, subtle new age universalism hiddenly disguised in ecumenicalism. If the truth can be mixed with lies and called truth and then defended by apostates as truth, then we enter a whole other realm called relativism. Another introduction by satan into this new age ecumenicalism. Christians are to stand for the truth of the Gospel always and forever, never compromising, never bending or twisting the truth, never adding to or taking away to make it politically correct and never ever are we to sit at the table of Baal and call it God. Ever. Stand for truth or fall for lies!

 

Felipe Diez

Comments: I, Felipe Diez, of Reforma Ministries, sign this petition against any ecumenical or interfaith relations with the Roman church

 

Pamela Manard

Comments: We are told in Scripture to mark and avoid those who teach unsound doctrines – NOT to embrace them!!! Let us Hold fast and contend for THE Faith once and for all delivered to us by the Lord Jesus Christ and His apostles as we are instucted to do (i.e. Jude 3; Gal.1:8,9; 1Tim. 6:3-5;21; Rom.16:17)

 

Catherine Mitchell

Comments: ”For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.” – 1 Thessalonians 5:3 — The cry is “unity” for peace….but there can be no unity with error for that compromise God will not bless. By this I do not condemn individuals in error, I speak against the error itself.

 

PS David Royle

Comments: You canot stand with a different gospel, a gospel that is no gospel at all

 

Reginald Uka

Comments: In Amos 3:3; it states can two walk together except they be agreed? And in 1cor.6:14-18 and in Rev.18:4; all warned Christians not to fellowship with false Christianity, that worships the creatures rather than the creator who is blessed who is blessed for ever, amen, Roman 1:25; it also warned believers in Yeshua of a false Christianity not engaging with a religious system that forbade marriage to their ministers, the practice of celibacy is of the devil, no wonder that this religious prostitute has scandals of scandals,as their priest, have been found to abuse wives,daughters of their parishioners. Engaging in paedophilicity,and priests involved in homosexual activities with minors,and alter boys, 1 Timothy 4:1-3. Christians are forbidden by Christ the Lord,not to call anyone father,because you have one father in heaven, and not to call anyone master or Rabbi because you have one master and a Rabbi, Christ the Lord, but this false religious system calls their priest fathers, and the top guy the Holy father. In the High priestly prayer of Christ to His father before He was crucified, Christ called the father in heaven, Holy Father in John 17:1-26. But this false religious system usurped this protected title of our Father in heaven to a mortal man that has breath in his nostril and also claimed to be infallible. This religious system also violates God’s command not to worship idols,graven images,and icons of dead saints, as against the bible in exodus 20: 3-5. This religious institution also claimed that their top bishop is the vicar of Christ the Lord. This is far from truth, the Holy Spirit is Christ vicar on earth as in John 16:7-8; 9-11. It is the blessed Holy Spirit that Christ sent on the feast of shavua or Pentecost is Christ’s vicar and representative not this man that protects child monsters,paedophil and sexual perverts mascurading as godly men. In retrospect, the above are sufficient ground to avoid fellowship with a system that violates the holy bible, and our blessed redeemer words. There are other reasons, but time and space made this difficult. I want to thank the Lord Jesus Christ who rescued me from this false, pseudo Christianity, hence, I am sounding out alarm to avoid her if you do not want to end up in flames in hellfire. Sincerely, Reginald Uka.

 

Chris Saunders

Comments: They will know we are Christians by our love for each other, we do not need to be herded together, we are free. If the Son makes you free , you are free indeed.

 

Dusty Gallagher

Comments: Ten periods in history witnessed the brutal persecutin of born again beleivers at the hands of the popes. Ratsinger has recently reaffirmed the RCC’s right / obligation to Kill heretics. That would be myself and thousands of Bible beleiving Christians who defy the popes’ claim to ” ruler of all things spiritual and temporal.” For a historically accurate and doctinally correct view of the same, please read Foxe’s Book of Martyrs. Jesus is Lord come in the flesh…and his name is NOT ratsinger.

 

Dion Gary Knoesen Of Discipleship Ministries South Africa

Comments: I sign my name in complete surrender and obedience to God!

 

These people were willing to make a stand. Will you? We are hoping to have this petition printed out over the next few months and given to David Sedaca and to the leaders of the Lausanne Consultation for Jewish Evangelism. If you would like to make your voice heard please sign the Petition at the following link:

www.ipetitions.com/petition/lcje

May the Lord richly bless you,

Shalom in the name of Yeshua,

SalvadorUng Hayworth

Where is the Lausanne Consultation for Jewish Evangelism heading?

In 1989 the second Lausanne congress took place in Manila. Out of the congress came the document termed, the Manila Manifesto. Although there is much to be commended in the document yet it does raise questions also.

On page 14 we read, “Our reference to “the whole church” is not a presumptuous claim that the universal church and the evangelical community are synonymous. For we recognize that there are many churches which are not part of the evangelical movement. Evangelical attitudes to the Roman Catholic and Orthodox Churches differ widely. Some evangelicals are praying, talking, studying Scripture and working with these churches. Others are strongly opposed to any form of dialogue or cooperation with them. All are aware that serious theological differences between us remain. Where appropriate, and so long as biblical truth is not compromised, cooperation may be possible in such areas as Bible translation, the study of contemporary theological and ethical issues, social work and political action. We wish to make it clear, however, that common evangelism demands a common commitment to the biblical gospel. Some of us are members of churches which belong to the World Council of Churches and believe that a positive but critical participation in its work is our Christian duty. Others among us have no link with the World Council. All of us urge the World Council of Churches to adopt a consistent biblical understanding of evangelism.”

What is apparent is that in 1989 the Lausanne movement was divided over the issue of ecumenism. Some wanted to stay well clear of it and others believed it was a Christian’s duty to be involved in order to maintain the unity within the “whole body of Christ”. What is clear is that at this stage the Lausanne Movement regarded the Roman Catholic and Orthodox Churches as part of the body of Christ, albeit recognising that theological differences with evangelicalism would prohibit in participation with those churches in any official evangelism. However when one accepts Roman Catholism or the Orthodox churches as legitimate expressions of Christianity it will just be a matter of time till ecumenical compromise sets in.

Though Lausanne Consultation for Jewish Evangelism may repudiate any allegation that they are in partnership with the Vatican, as we saw with the open letter to David Sedaca, the idea of ecumenical unity has been praised and promoted. David Sedaca literally stated that an ecumenical meeting between evangelicals and Catholics demonstrates the unity that only Christ can bring! This is highly dangerous for it only serves to encourage ecumenism while most of orthodox evangelicalism sits by quietly without calling him to account. In the petition I have drawn up I have gratefully received 82 signatures but 82 people is a very small number. In the Lausanne Bulletin 103, February 2011, the same David Sedaca that spoke of ecumenism with Roman Catholics and evangelicals demonstrating Christ’s unity, stated the following, “We may receive opposition from the church. Some churches may have a distorted view of what we are doing, but let’s build bridges, not walls. We are all part of the Body of Messiah. We are all part of the church. Our role is not isolation, but integration that respects our uniqueness and calling. There may be problems within Jewish evangelism…. Today we are confronted by strange theologies (Ephraimites, Talmudists, strong charismatics, personality cults), so we must take a stand for what we believe- otherwise we have believed in vain.”

When Mr Sedaca was challenged to make a stand against the Roman Catholic Church and put right his recommendation of the ecumenical meeting he promoted with praiseworthy language he refused to make a stand against the false gospel of Rome. Brethren, does this not concern you or shake your confidence in this man and the organisation he is representing? As Mr Sedaca wrote this report after his recommendation of ecumenism one can only assume that when he states that we are all part of the Body of Messiah he is including Roman Catholic Churches also. So do we need to build bridges?

Since the second Lausanne Congress in Manila 1989 the third Lausanne Congress took place in Cape Town in 2010. The document that came out of this was called the Cape Town Commitment. On page 3 of the Cape Town commitment it states, “While we speak and write from the evangelical tradition in The Lausanne Movement, we affirm the oneness of the Body of Christ, and gladly recognize that there are many followers of the Lord Jesus Christ within other traditions. We welcomed several senior representatives from several historic churches of other traditions as observers in Cape Town, and we trust The Cape Town Commitment may be helpful to churches of all traditions.”

It seems the gap is lessening. Where as the Manila Manifesto claimed that cooperation in evangelism would not be possible with non evangelical forms of Christianity though Lausanne assert that the Body of Christ is wider than the evangelical tradition and clearly intimated that it accepted that the wider body of Christ included the Roman Catholic and Orthodox traditions. But in The Cape Town Commitment we read on page 19, “We urgently seek a new global partnership within the body of Christ across all continents, rooted in profound mutual love, mutual submission, and dramatic economic sharing without paternalism or unhealthy dependency.”

On page 44, though there is a repudiation of the prosperity gospel as unbiblical, nothing is stated about the false gospel of Rome which is extremely dangerous when one looks at what they say under the section entitled, “IIF – Partnering in the Body of Christ for unity in mission.”

“1. Unity in the Church.

A divided Church has no message for a divided world. Our failure to live in reconciled unity is a major obstacle to authenticity and effectiveness in mission.

a) We lament the dividedness and divisiveness of our churches and organizations. We deeply and urgently long for Christians to cultivate a spirit of grace and to be obedient to Paul’s command to ‘make every effort to maintain the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.’

b) While we recognize that our deepest unity is spiritual, we long for greater recognition of the missional power of visible, practical, earthly unity. So we urge Christian brothers and sisters worldwide, for the sake of our common witness and mission, to resist the temptation to split the body of Christ, and to seek the paths of reconciliation and restored unity wherever possible.

….We stand together as church and mission leaders in all parts of the world, called to recognize and accept one another, with equality of opportunities to contribute together to world mission. Let us, in submission to Christ, lay aside suspicion, competition and pride, and be willing to learn from those whom God is using, even when they are not from our continent, nor of our particular theology, nor of our organization, nor of our circle of friends.”

It should be clear that Lausanne is wanting to network outside of the evangelical tradition of Christianity, albeit with possible caution. They are confessedly open to ecumenism. It is no surprise that David Sedaca sat on the fence when asked concerning his praise of ecumenism saying that he neither condones it or condemns it. This is not to say that all members of Lausanne feel this way but the movement itself definitely does. Read this following excerpt from a Roman Catholic forum concerning a letter written to them from a representative from LCJE member “Jews for Jesus”.

http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=17676

“The documentary Survivor Stories features a concentration camp survivor who converted to Christianity. On further inquiry, I learned why the conversions have not been to Catholicism. Read on and weep with me for our ‘politically correct’ Church, more interested in the Jewish mainstream than in befriending Christ.

- Shalom Mr. xxxxxx,

The first thing I want to say is that we praise God for putting you in a church where you find the finest and fullest proclamation of His truth. No one in Jews for Jesus will ever criticize you for being a devoted Catholic. We are pleased to work jointly with many Catholics, as we do with any who love the Lord Jesus and have put their trust in Him for their salvation. We have been to numerous fellowships, community groups and home Bible studies comprised of Catholics who have a personal relationship with Jesus. —————->We often present “Christ in the Passover,” a sermonic demonstration that illustrates how the Jewish feast foreshadows the coming of Christ and fits beautifully with the Eucharist.<———-

We have not found, however, the same spirit of acceptance within the Roman Catholic Church proper. Part of the problem has to do with the doctrines of the Catholic Church, and part of it has to do with Jews for Jesus. While Jews for Jesus stresses unity always above differences within the Body of Christ, we generally do not feel welcome in the regular Mass of the Catholic Church."

What will Jews for Jesus publically state concerning such claims. Will they let this be publicized by Roman Catholics? Are they really in agreement with such a statement? Silence will only condemn someone as an accomplice.

In the Jews for Jesus magazine "Issues. Volume 17:4" Several Jews who converted to Roman Catholicism are lauded. The main article concerns Cardinal Jean-Marie Lustiger who maintained his Jewish identity while a Roman Catholic. On page 5 the author of the article, Josh Turnil, sadly equates Lustiger's conversion to Catholicism as conversion to Christianity. No qualification is made to say that it was an unbiblical form of "Christianity". How can sound evangelical Christians make such a blunder so as to equate the Roman Catholic Church as a legitimate expression of Christianity. Rome holds to a different gospel! Ecumenism is even more serious an error than replacement theology and just as important an issue as accepting the need of Jews to hear the gospel. To glory in causing an organization to recognize the need for Jewish missions while promoting unity with non evangelical forms of "Christianity" is a major defeat! Not a victory! Replacement theologians will automatically agree with such a position believing that Jews are no different to any other people as they do not retain a special place in God's eyes.

Is it any wonder that Lausanne are taking this path when their founder was ecumenist Billy Graham and the honorary chairman of the Lausanne movement used to be the late John Stott?

The question that each of us must ask ourselves concerning this issue is what our reaction should be. We must seek the Lord for His direction concerning how we are to stand against this tide of ecumenism that is rising rapidly in the conservative evangelical camp. To shut our eyes and hope it to go away is naive. It must be spoken against and refuted in the strongest possible terms as Paul strongly and aggressively contested the false gospel of the Galatians Judaisers. Though I believe that we should be patient and soft with those doubting, there can be little soft patience with the people promoting this deception. We must call them to account and to reject both ecumenism and the promotion of ecumenism. If you would like to add your name to the petition calling David Sedaca and LCJE to renounce ecumenism please visit the following link http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/lcje . Our hope is in the next few months to get this petition printed out and as the Lord allows to have it put in the hands of David Sedaca and Kai Kjaer-Hanson.

Some of our signatories to date are,

Ruth Nessim – CJF missionary in Israel. http://www.cjfm.org

Miguel Hayworth – Director of First Plumbline Apologetics.

James Jacob Prasch – Director of Moriel Ministries international.

Keith Parker – Prayer for Israel

Geoffrey Toole – Moriel Missions Japan.

Alan Mackenzie – Road to Recovery Christian Fellowship.

Mark Van Niekerk – Hazorim. http://www.hazorim.org

Roger Winter-Smith – Stroud Green Christian Assembly

Chris De Wet – Moriel Ministries Bloemfontein

Jackie Alnor – Rapture Ready Radio presenter of Apostasy Alert programme.

Pastor Marco Quintana – Community Church of Devore

Scott Brisk – Moriel Be Alert

Cecil Andrews – Take Heed Ministries

Felipe Diez – Reforma Ministries

Pastor David Royle – Moriel Missions Southern Africa

Martin Emerson – Light in the Darkness

Satan’s Same Confusion Subtle Strategy

Dear Friends and family,

In this posting I paste an article on Satan’s Ecumenical Strategy by Cecil Andrews of Take Heed Ministries. Cecil has kindly given permission for us to utilise any article that may help the cause of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Perhaps this may help to understand the importance of every stand made against ecumenical unity as we see one initiative after another being put into place as bricks that make up a wall too strong to push over.

http://www.takeheed.net/News_From_The_Front/news14.htm

SATAN’S SAME Confusion SUBTLE STRATEGY

by Cecil Andrews

In Genesis 3:1 we read “Now the serpent was more subtil than any

beast of the field”. The word “subtil” would be well understood

as meaning ‘crafty’ in today’s language.

Into a clear-cut situation “And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die” [Genesis 2:16-17] the serpent [Satan] introduces confusion – “Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?… Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil” [Genesis 3:1,4&5]

The consequence of Satan’s Subtle Strategy was

‘the fall’ and its effects are everywhere still evident today.

God’s clear-cut remedy for the salvation of fallen man is

through the proclamation of His ‘gospel’ “For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth” [Romans 1:16] and “it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe” [1 Corinthians 1:21].

To try and counteract the saving effectiveness of God’s ‘gospel’ Satan has remained faithful to his tried and trusted tactic of sowing confusion. We are now living in days of unprecedented uncertainty where the very essence of ‘the gospel’ is concerned and it is all due to Satan’s age-old ploy of questioning the truth and reliability of God’s word – still today Satan says “Yea, hath God said”?

Not only has Satan sought to pollute and pervert the core ingredients of God’s ‘gospel’ but he has also sought to confuse the identity and distinguishing marks of a true ‘Christian’. The success of this strategy is best seen in a number of developments in recent years. The most worrying aspect of all of this is that many who describe themselves as being ‘EVANGELICAL’ show the greatest evidence of being the victims of Satan’s Strategy of sowing confusion. Earlier I mentioned ‘developments in recent years’ so let me briefly mention a few of these by way of example

March 1994 Publication of ‘Evangelicals and Catholics Together – The Christian Mission For The Third Millennium’. This was endorsed by leading so-called Evangelicals such as J I Packer, Bill Bright and Charles Colson.   1995 Promotion of the ‘Alpha Course’ by Sandy Millar and Nicky Gumbel of Holy Trinity Brompton church in the midst of they and their fellowship experiencing the so-called ‘Toronto Blessing’.  July 1998 Publication of ‘Evangelicals and Catholics Together in Ireland’. At a number of meetings in Belfast and Dublin J I Packer in company with ‘Father’ Pat Collins sought to justify this concept.  1998 Publication of ‘Adventures in Reconciliation; 29 Catholic testimonies’. The joint editors of this publication [funded by the European Programme for Peace and Reconciliation] were Paddy Monaghan and Eugene Boyle of the group known as ‘Evangelical Catholic Initiative’. Amongst the ‘Protestant’ endorsers of this book were Bishop Harold Millar (Church of Ireland), Rev Ken Wilson (Methodist) Pastor Paul Reid (Christian Fellowship Church) and Rev Ken Newell and Rev Trevor Morrow (both Presbyterian). On the Roman Catholic side Cardinal Cahal Daly and Archbishop Sean Brady endorsed it.

 

 

 

 

These theological hybrid endeavours have produced a rich harvest of deadly poisonous fruit when they speak of how a person becomes a Christian and when they spread the ‘testimonies’ of those claiming to be Christian. Rather than bringing clarity into the realm of the matters addressed they have served only to introduce widespread confusion. Many of God’s people have been greatly troubled by these developments. They have to a degree lost peace of mind over matters that were formerly never in dispute. Why has this happened and who is at the back of it all? The scriptures assist us greatly with these words “For God is not the author of confusion but of peace” [1 Corinthians 14:33].

Satan has without doubt been very busy.

Briefly I would like to detail some of the ‘genetically modified’

teachings and testimonies that genuine evangelical believers

are being asked to swallow and accept as being both faithful

sound doctrine and testimony of belonging to Christ’s sheep.

Please consider this section [with comments added] from the March 1994 ‘Evangelicals and Catholics Together – The Christian Mission For The Third Millennium’ ‘Those converted – whether [1] understood as having received the new birth for the first time [evangelical Holy Spirit regeneration] or [2] as having experienced the reawakening of the new birth originally bestowed in the sacrament of baptism [Roman Catholic sacramental baptismal regeneration] must be given full freedom as they decide the [church] community in which they will live their new life in Christ [Evangelical or Roman Catholic churches viewed as equally valid]. The so-called ‘Evangelicals’ who signed this document officially sanctioned baptismal regeneration as a valid way of becoming a Christian and formally acknowledged Roman Catholicism as a viable form of Christianity. They have ably promoted Satan’s Subtle Strategy of confusion.

 

‘Alpha News’ – March – July 2000 On the front page of this newspaper there is a photograph of TV presenter Diane Louise Jordan and underneath we read ‘A video explaining the vision for the Alpha supper initiative in September is being sent to all the 7000 churches in the UK running Alpha. The video is introduced by TV presenter Diane Louise Jordan’. Half the text of page 3 is given over to supplying further information about this project and the remainder of pages 3 & 6 is entirely devoted to Diane Louise Jordan’s ‘testimony’. In all the articles on these pages about the video and Diane Lousie Jordan herself there is not one mention of Jesus Christ. There is not one usage of the word sin. There is not one reference to either Calvary or The Cross. There is not one mention of conversion or having been born again. There are in fact quite a number of disturbing and dare I say it ‘diabolical’ incidents referred to as the following extracts from the ‘testimony’ will show. When somebody dies in your family you ask the questions, “What is it all about? Where do we go after this? But I remember feeling quite peaceful about my sister dying because I really believe she was going somewhere better…While I was at Blue Peter, there was a producer friend who I got on with famously. He was trendy…he loved partying…We were once stuck in a hotel near Auschwitz…so we sat at the bar all evening…and in the middle of this conversation he announced that he went to a church in the centre of London where they had discussions about faith. It wasn’t churchy and a lot of media people went there so I should feel at home…I told him I didn’t believe in Christianity and it wasn’t for me… A couple of years later we found ourselves in Argentina…On my day off I was lying on my bed with my eyes wide open when I had this massive vision. I saw my sister…There was no stress on her face…She told me that she was in heaven with God. It was a beautiful experience but I was freaked out and cried uncontrollably…Later on my friend came to find out where I was and I told him what had happened. He said that it was probably God [Luke 16:27-31 would teach differently] …when I was leaving Blue Peter six years later…they invited me to present one episode of ‘Songs of Praise’ from LOURDES which is an incredibly spiritual place [The question is which ‘spirits’ are active at Lourdes] …one evening we went to the Grotto…I just stood at the side…and I just could not stop crying…I came back from there feeling quite changed…From that moment on I actually started telling everybody I was a Christian…I remembered that my producer friend had mentioned this course…It was called an Alpha course…I spoke to him about my experience in Lourdes and he just said “Yeah, I think you ought to go and do this course”…Then in 1998 I was invited to present ‘Songs of Praise’ about Alpha from Holy Trinity Brompton…It felt fantastic…and I thought “I’ve really got to go back and do this Alpha course”. So I went back and completed the course and during that time GOD SORT OF CREPT UP ON ME REALLY GENTLY AND HE HAS KEPT CREEPING EVER SINCE [I read in my bible of ‘conviction’ and ‘conversion’ but I’m struggling to find God ‘CREEPING’]. God has been clearing away all the clutter… Even my friends are saying “You are much

 

As I read this ‘testimony’ I thought of the words of 1 John 4:1 “Beloved believe not every spirit but try [test] the spirits whether they are of God”. I must confess that this ‘fruit’ of ALPHA left a bitter taste as I digested it.

 

Finally I want to consider the confusion sown in recent years by ‘EVANGELICAL CATHOLICS’ 1998 saw the publication of a booklet and book, both of which were heavily influenced by the Irish ‘Evangelical Catholic Initiative’, based just south of Dublin. On the ‘Group Participants’ committee that helped draw up the booklet ‘Evangelicals and Catholics Together in Ireland’ were Eugene Boyle and Paddy Monaghan who on the front cover of the book ‘Adventures in Reconciliation – 29 Catholic Testimonies’ were listed as ‘Editors’. These 2 men act as spokespersons in Northern and Southern Ireland for this ‘Evangelical Catholic Initiative’ grouping. Another who was a member of the ‘Group Participants’ committee and endorsed the ‘ECT in Ireland’ booklet and also wrote a commendation at the start of the book ‘Adventures in Reconciliation’ was Presbyterian minister Trevor Morrow. Let me quote part of what he wrote ‘The Jewish Christians from Jerusalem had come down to Galatia and were fearful that Paul’s message of justification apart from the work of the law would undermine the traditions and identity of their Jewish inheritance. They were insisting that it was not enough for a Gentile to believe in Jesus Christ. They also had to follow the laws of Judaism; to be circumcised, sabbaths and festivals, in order for them to be accepted as Christians. It became for them a criteria for FELLOWSHIP [emphasis mine]. Paul rails against this. If someone insists that something else is required, apart from faith, in order to accept a person as a fellow Christian, or as a basis of fellowship, then they, says Paul, are preaching a false gospel.

If you refer back to the article in my last newsletter entitled

‘Ecumenical “stones for bread” (Luke 11:11) in Ballymena’

you will discover an uncanny similarity between what Russell Birney preached and what Trevor Morrow has here written. They are obviously ‘singing from the same perverted ecumenical hymn-sheet’ to persuade people that the term ‘Evangelical Catholic’ is not what it truly is – a contradiction in terms.

Finally I want to consider the confusion sown in recent years by ‘EVANGELICAL CATHOLICS’ 1998 saw the publication of a booklet and book, both of which were heavily influenced by the Irish ‘Evangelical Catholic Initiative’, based just south of Dublin. On the ‘Group Participants’ committee that helped draw up the booklet ‘Evangelicals and Catholics Together in Ireland’ were Eugene Boyle and Paddy Monaghan who on the front cover of the book ‘Adventures in Reconciliation – 29 Catholic Testimonies’ were listed as ‘Editors’. These 2 men act as spokespersons in Northern and Southern Ireland for this ‘Evangelical Catholic Initiative’ grouping. Another who was a member of the ‘Group Participants’ committee and endorsed the ‘ECT in Ireland’ booklet and also wrote a commendation at the start of the book ‘Adventures in Reconciliation’ was Presbyterian minister Trevor Morrow. Let me quote part of what he wrote ‘The Jewish Christians from Jerusalem had come down to Galatia and were fearful that Paul’s message of justification apart from the work of the law would undermine the traditions and identity of their Jewish inheritance. They were insisting that it was not enough for a Gentile to believe in Jesus Christ. They also had to follow the laws of Judaism; to be circumcised, sabbaths and festivals, in order for them to be accepted as Christians. It became for them a criteria for FELLOWSHIP [emphasis mine]. Paul rails against this. If someone insists that something else is required, apart from faith, in order to accept a person as a fellow Christian, or as a basis of fellowship, then they, says Paul, are preaching a false gospel.’

 

Going back to what Mr Morrow wrote, the Judaisers were not insisting on all those things listed as a basis for FELLOWSHIP – THEY WERE INSISTING UPON THEM AS THE GROUNDS FOR SALVATION and that was what Paul condemned as ‘preaching a false gosepl’ and as I explained in my previous article he publicly challenged those like Peter who fellowshipped with these ‘false gospel’ peddlars and Mr Morrow and Mr Birney are today both guilty of the same error as Peter. Sadly in June Trevor Morrow will be installed as Moderator of the Presbyterian Church in Ireland. The Presbyterian Church and Christ’s gospel have been well served by the outgoing Moderator, my brother in Christ, John Lockington, but true evangelicals in the Presbyterian Church will have to brace themselves for seeing their new Moderator happily engaging in false ecumenism. Following his selection in February the Belfast Telegraph reported [2/2/00] that ‘Dr Morrow will be willing to take part in joint acts of worship with Roman Catholics’ even though the same article later quotes Mr Morrow as describing his own ministry as ‘evangelical, reformed and orthodox’. His willingness to engage in false ecumenism should come as no surprise following his comments back in 1989. That year the Presbyterian Church voted against joining the ecumenical Council of Churches for Britain and Ireland. The Belfast Telegraph [28/6/89] reported ‘The assembly voted overwhelmingly against the new inter-church body which includes the Roman Catholic Church of England and Wales’. The same article also reported ‘The leader of the Presbyterian Church in the Republic, Dr Trevor Morrow has strongly attacked decisions taken at the General Assembly to oppose membership of the Council of Churches for Britain and Ireland…Dr Morrow told a meeting of the Dublin and Munster Presbytery yesterday that the decisions highlighted the need for “deep and radical repentance” within the Church’. Finally, many on my ‘local’ mailing list will know of the concerns we raised about plans for Eugene Boyle to speak at the womens FOCUSFEST meetings to be held in Coleraine in early June. Apart from our own protests, many people including a large number of genuinely converted former Roman Catholics also wrote expressing their concerns. I am pleased to report that equal time will be allocated to Baptist Pastor, Clive Johnston, to question Mr Boyle [in depth] during these seminars. I am not claiming any victory here but simply rejoicing that an opportunity will be given [by way of questions] to express the view that Mr Boyle’s claimed position is in reality scripturally untenable.

 

Can you see the importance of sounding the alarm against ecumenical compromise? More and more people are following suit and silently joining hands with the Roman Catholic Church. The Lausanne Consultation for Jewish Evangelism seems to be yet another brick in the wall of ecumenical compromise. May people take note and take action.

Up to now we have had 76 signatures on our petition concerning the promotion and involvment of ecumenism within the Lausanne Consultation for Jewish Evangelism. Some of the singatories are involved in several ministries:

Name: Ruth Nessim (CJF Ministries Missionary in Israel
http://www.cjfm.org/
)

Name: Miguel Hayworth (Firstplumbline Apologetics)

Name: John Hayworth (Firstplumbline Apologetics)

Name: J. Jacob Prasch (Moriel Ministries’ International Director)

Name: Keith Parker (Prayer for Israel, UK)

Name: Geoffrey Toole (Moriel Ministries, Japan)

Name: Alan MacKenzie (Road to Recovery Christian Fellowship)

Name: Mark Van Niekerk (www.hazorim.org http://www.messiah.com.es )

Name: Roger Winter-Smith (Pastor of Stroud Green Christian Assembly)

Name: Chris De Wet (Moriel Ministries, Bloemfontein, SA)

Name: Jackie Alnor (Host of Apostasy Alert on Rapture Ready Radio Network

Name: Pastor Marco Quintana (Pastor of the Community Church of Devore)

Name: Scott Brisk (Moriel Be Alert) Name: Cecil Andrews (‘Take Heed’ Ministries)

Name: Felipe Diez (Reforma Ministries)

 

Name: PS David Royle (Moriel Missions Southern Africa)

In the words of Reginald Uka the 75 signatory of the Petition:

“Name: Reginald Uka on Dec 15, 2011

Comments: In Amos 3:3; it states can two walk together except they be agreed? And in 1cor.6:14-18 and in Rev.18:4; all warned Christians not to fellowship with false Christianity, that worships the creatures rather than the creator who is blessed who is blessed for ever, amen, Roman 1:25; it also warned believers in Yeshua of a false Christianity not engaging with a religious system that forbade marriage to their ministers, the practice of celibacy is of the devil, no wonder that this religious prostitute has scandals of scandals,as their priest, have been found to abuse wives,daughters of their parishioners. Engaging in paedophilicity,and priests involved in homosexual activities with minors,and alter boys, 1 Timothy 4:1-3. Christians are forbidden by Christ the Lord,not to call anyone father,because you have one father in heaven, and not to call anyone master or Rabbi because you have one master and a Rabbi, Christ the Lord, but this false religious system calls their priest fathers, and the top guy the Holy father. In the High priestly prayer of Christ to His father before He was crucified, Christ called the father in heaven, Holy Father in John 17:1-26. But this false religious system usurped this protected title of our Father in heaven to a mortal man that has breath in his nostril and also claimed to be infallible. This religious system also violates God’s command not to worship idols,graven images,and icons of dead saints, as against the bible in exodus 20: 3-5. This religious institution also claimed that their top bishop is the vicar of Christ the Lord. This is far from truth, the Holy Spirit is Christ vicar on earth as in John 16:7-8; 9-11. It is the blessed Holy Spirit that Christ sent on the feast of shavua or Pentecost is Christ’s vicar and representative not this man that protects child monsters,paedophil and sexual perverts mascurading as godly men. In retrospect, the above are sufficient ground to avoid fellowship with a system that violates the holy bible, and our blessed redeemer words. There are other reasons, but time and space made this difficult. I want to thank the Lord Jesus Christ who rescued me from this false, pseudo Christianity, hence, I am sounding out alarm to avoid her if you do not want to end up in flames in hellfire. Sincerely, Reginald Uka.“

 

Please consider signing the petition if you haven’t done so already. If you can please post these on your websites or on your facebook wall. There is a button that will allow you to share it.

 

May our Messiah, Yeshua, bless you richly,

 

Salvador Ung Hayworth

ROMAN CATHOLICISM: A DIFFERENT GOSPEL THAT CONDONES IDOLATRY

ROMAN CATHOLICISM: A DIFFERENT GOSPEL THAT CONDONES IDOLATRY

If there are Roman Catholics who take part in the Mass, who is to say that they are not Christians? What is so bad about taking the Catholic Mass? It surely does not mean these people follow another Gospel does it?

The Gospel saves us from idolatry and tells us to repent. Anybody in scripture that got saved turned from idolatry and in the case of the Corinthians seriously admonished if they continued to eat meat sacrificed to idols. The Roman Catholic Church teaches a doctrine called ‘transubstantiation’. This means that when the priest prays over the bread and wine in the Roman Catholic Mass the bread and wine, though still looking accidentally like bread and wine, actually change substance and become the very body and blood of Jesus. This is called the ‘real presence’. When Roman Catholics take communion, they believe that they are actually eating Jesus. The bread and wine are called the Eucharistic. Eucharist comes from the Greek word ‘Eucharisto’ which means ‘thanksgiving’ but the Roman Catholic is doing more that thanking God. They think they are worshipping Jesus whom they are eating. If the bread and wine turn into the literal body and blood of Jesus then there is no problem with the mass. But if the bread and wine do not change, then in treating the bread and wine as if those emblems are Jesus are they not guilty of idolatry? If the bread and wine do literally become the body and blood of the Lord then I am in serious peril for I have blasphemed the Lord. Idolatry is something we must all guard against but the difference with the mass is that it is institutionalized idolatry and the official dogma of the Catholic Church. Thus to embrace the Mass as part of ones salvation – it is also taught as a means of acquiring grace to lessen ones time in purgatory – would deny the Gospel of its call to repent from all idolatry. In some cases I believe there would be innocence in ignorance but not in the case of the top brass. Not in the case of Roman Catholic Archbishop, Monsignor Luis Alberto Rivas of Saint Joseph Basilica.  I would be much softer in my tone concerning the average Roman Catholic but I do not lessen my view of the Vatican.

Of course it must be admitted that Catholics do not believe that they are worshipping a piece of bread for they do not believe the bread is bread. It is the very body of Christ. So from their perspective it is a sin not to worship the Eucharistic host because the bread is Jesus. The following Catholic forum and attached article by the catholic news agency spells this out.
http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=438849
 . Thus, if the Eucharist is not Jesus in a literal sense then Roman Catholics are guilty of idolatry. But if the bread is the very body of Christ then I am sinning for calling the Mass an act of idolatry and not believing in Jesus as He has manifested Himself. The people on the aforementioned website even claim themselves that The Mass is not idolatry simply because of the fact that the Eucharist is Christ.

In John 6:47 it says that unless we eat Jesus’ body and drink Jesus’ blood we have no life in ourselves. Jesus clearly says that the way to receive that life, which we receive by eating His body and drinking His blood in John 6:47 is by believing. It is not by eating communion or else how would the thief on the cross have been saved. It is true that we commune with Christ when we take communion, but not by the actual emblems. It is simply by belief and obedience in His commandment as happens when we believe and obey him in other matters. There is a greater significance however in that the bread and the cup are symbols. The cup itself symbolizes the New Covenant but I do not hear anyone saying that the cup has transformed into a covenant! In communion we relive the cross theatrically not actually, just as the Jews relived the exodus theatrically in the Passover. When Jews say that the matza is the bread of affliction, it did not turn into the actual bread they had in Egypt. Thus the Mass is idolatry in that the emblems do not turn into the very body and blood of Christ and thus they are worshipping bread and wine. If the Catholics are right then my soul is in eternal peril unless I recant and change my position.

Pope John Paul II spoke clearly of Eucharistic worship of Christ in the mass. Where do they meet Him? According to Catholic dogma the emblems are Christ. This is not far out heretical teachings from the lunatic fringe of Roman Catholicism but representative of the Catholic Church’s stance itself. There may be individuals in the Roman Catholic Church who do it in ignorance, but this is Roman Catholic dogma itself and not the lunatic fringe of the pre Vatican II crowd.

Some may say that Catholics merely worship Christ to whom the emblems of the bread and wine point. If only Catholics worshipped that to which the emblems pointed to! But this is not the doctrine of transubstantiation. The emblems do not merely point to the body and blood of Christ but they change substance to become the actual body and blood of Jesus. Even, if some do not hold to the traditional Catholic view, it is still the view of the church and the majority of the Catholic world holds to this. Again we reiterate that for the Catholic, they are not worshipping bread and wine, because for them it is not bread and wine. Those are just its accidents. Its essence or substance is Christ Himself. They meet Christ in the mass because they are literally eating Christ. Again if transubstantiation is true to regard them as merely symbolic would be to reject Christ as He has manifested Himself in our unbelief and thus we would be blaspheming against His very body and blood to speak against transubstantiation.

However it is argued that Catholics do not worship the Eucharist, which they also call the host. Dr Alan Schreck, associate professor of theology at the Franciscan University of Steubenville, Ohio states that “Catholics speak of the “real presence” of Christ in the bread and wine. This presence of Jesus can only be accepted by faith…. (We) simply affirm that Jesus’ words are literally true.** This is why RCs have great reverence for the bread and wine, since they believe the Word of God to be present in them….. Catholics do not ‘worship the host’ but worship Jesus Christ whom they discern by faith to be present in the host.”

This may perhaps show some difference of understanding within the Catholic Church. I know that Dr Alan Schreck is engaged in apologetics for the Catholic Church in the hope of welcoming protestants and evangelicals back home to mother church.
http://www.franciscan.edu/News/Cardinal_Rigali_Apologists_Equip_the_Faithful/
. Yet the late Pope John Paul II, the head spokesperson for the Catholic Church answered the false claim that Catholics do not worship the Eucharistic host from in excerpts from his three day address in Pheonix Park, Ireland 1979. ‘The Eucharist, in the Mass and outside of the Mass, is the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ, and is therefore deserving of the worship that is given to the living God, and to him alone.’ www.therealpresence.org/eucharst/pea/pjpdevot.html

My friends, this is why I have put together the open letter and petition for David Sedaca and the Lausanne Consultation For Jewish Evangelism. More and more evangelicals are flirting with that false religion and it is time for God’s faithful to raise their voice in objection. “Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness? Or what harmony has Christ with Belial, or what has a believer in common with an unbeliever? Or what agreement has the temple of God with idols?” – 2 Cor 6:14-16 “But I have this against you, that you tolerate the woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess, and she teaches and leads my bond-servants astray so that they commit acts of immorality and eat things sacrificed to idols.” – Rev 2:20.

I am not alone in my belief. The following people from the following ministries also have this concern heavily on their hearts:

Name: Ruth Nessim (CJF Ministries Missionary in Israel http://www.cjfm.org/)

Name: Miguel Hayworth (Firstplumbline Apologetics)

Name: John Hayworth (Firstplumbline Apologetics)

Name: J. Jacob Prasch (Moriel Ministries’ International Director)

Name: Keith Parker (Prayer for Israel, UK)

Name: Geoffrey Toole (Moriel Ministries, Japan)

Name: Alan MacKenzie (Road to Recovery Christian Fellowship)

Name: Mark Van Niekerk (www.hazorim.org www.messiah.com.es )

Name: Roger Winter-Smith (Pastor of Stroud Green Christian Assembly)

Name: Chris De Wet (Moriel Ministries, Bloemfontein, SA)

Name: Jackie Alnor (Host of Apostasy Alert on Rapture Ready Radio Network

Name: Pastor Marco Quintana (Pastor of the Community Church of Devore)

Name: Scott Brisk (Moriel Be Alert)

Name: Cecil Andrews (‘Take Heed’ Ministries) – P.S.  Details of 3 public debates in Ireland on

‘The Eucharist’ in which Cecil Andrews shall be participating in May 2012 (DV) can be found on this link:

www.takeheed.net/Take_Heed_2011/Ministry_Updates/Review_Letter_December_2011.htm

 

Please consider also signing the petition: www.ipetitions.com/petition/lcje

Shalom in Yeshua,

Salvador Ung Hayworth

Update on the petition for LCJE, 23-Nov-2011

We are now up to 56 people on our petition to request the Lausanne Consultation for Jewish Evangelism to denounce and repudiate ecumenism. As I wrote on the last update,

“I would like to start by way of illustration:

A Christian radio host promotes a worship meeting of Evangelical Christians with a known Paedophile and leader of a pro-homosexual ‘Christian’ group. This man claims how this meeting is important this meeting is in breaking down walls in the Christian church and such a meeting celebrates the unity that Christ brings. When asked why such a man promotes a meeting with a known Paedophile and representative of the homosexual lobby the radio presenter denies ever having promoted anything of the kind. When presented with evidence that the  radio presenter did actually promote such a meeting he responds by saying that he was only reporting on the meeting, and he neither condones or condemns such a meeting. Can I ask you how you would respond? Would you say that such a radio presenter does not need to be called to account? What about all the children who have been abused? What about the liberalisation of scripture’s teaching on sexual matters? Would you not make a voice? I know that members of the Roman Catholic Church would!

However, the Roman Catholic Church is a false religion. It is a pseudo form of Christianity which believes that Mary is co-mediator with Christ when 1 Tim 2:5 states that there is only one mediator between God and man, the man Christ Jesus. There is no mediator between man and Jesus. The Roman Catholic Church (RCC) teach their members to pray to the dead saints which is necromancy, something that Deut 18:11 God denounces as an abomination or to put it in laymans terms, a disgusting thing. The RCC teach that the bread and wine of communion actually turn into the actually body and blood of Jesus and they worship it. Jesus is clear that we do this in rememberance of Him and we share in His sacrifice by believing in His word and obeying it. (cf John 6:55-58 with John 6:47). To worship a piece of bread as if it is Jesus is idolatry which is a sin God strongly hates. These are just a couple of examples. Mike Gendron makes the following comparison between Jesus and the bible and the RCC:

Jesus and His Word teach…

• You are saved by faith and not by works (Ephesians 2:8-9).
• All who rely on observing the law (commandments) are under a curse (Galations 3:10).
• Salvation occurs at the moment you believe the Gospel (Ephesians 1:13).
• Jesus purifies sin (Hebrews 1:3).
• You can know for sure you are saved (1 John 5:13).
• The sacrifice of Jesus is finished (John 19:30).

The Pope and his church teach…

• You are saved by faith plus works.
• Obedience to the commandments is a condition for salvation.
• Salvation is a process from baptism through purgatory.
• Purgatory purifies sin.
• You are condemned if you claim to be saved.
• The sacrifice of Jesus continues in daily Mass.

As you can see these two teachings directly oppose one another. You must make the choice as to which is true and which is deception. Your choice will determine your eternal destiny.

http://www.pro-gospel.org/articles/102-are-catholics-deceived

Thus Roman Catholicism is just as serious an issue as Homosexuality and Paedophilia.

The above illustration mirrors my actual experience with David Sedaca, Latin American co-ordinator of Lausanne Consultation for Jewish Evangelism (LCJE) a prestigious organisation which promotes Jewish Evangelism which includes some wonderful partners and members such as Jews for Jesus, Arnold Fruchtenbaum and Ariel Ministries, Tuvya Zaretsky, and Mitch Glaser with Chosen People Ministries. All have done some notably work in the body of Christ. However in LCJE’s newsletter “LCJE Bulletin 95″ David Sedaca praises an ecumenical gathering with a Roman Catholic Archbishop Monsignor Rivas of Saint Joseph Basilica as an important meeting which demonstrated the unity that Christ brings. David Sedaca claimed this explicitly. When I wrote to him privately to question him he did not respond. When I questioned again with witnesses he flatly denied having ever promoted any ecumenism. When I contacted him again stating the evidence, he claimed he was only reporting on the meeting and did not condone or condemn it. Surely brothers and sisters this is not good enough for a serious question directed at a serious issue? Do we let this go by in resignation or do we demand a better answer. By praising such an ecumenical meeting, promoting it and using it to speak of Christian unity and then failing to condemn it, does that not seem to you that he is in fact not condoning it but actively promoting it? (For details of our private correspondance please see the open letter which contains such private correspondance at:
http://lausannecje.wordpress.com/about/
)

It is for this reason that I have put a petition together. I am hoping that with enough signatures LCJE will see that this is not a handful of trouble makers simply trying to stir up a nest but a genuine concern from a large section of the Evangelical Church. A genuine question needs a genuine answer. It is not good enough to ignore such a call to account. My name is Salvador Ung Hayworth. I am not in any discernment ministry. I am a missionary who shares the gospel with Zulu folk in South Africa and teach the Bible to Zulu, Afrikaans, Indian and English South Africans. (Our ministry website is www.kwazulumission.com ) I am not searching for every ministries piece of dirt. I believe in the purity of the gospel and the need to withstand compromise on the gospel which is the call of every Christian in Christ’s body.

The reason why my petition is important is because other people have contacted representatives of LCJE with similar questions and had their emails ignored. I have recieved correspondance of someone who explicitly promoted an ecumenical meeting as important and then refuses to condemn ecumenism. This is not simply a member of the LCJE network, this is a co-ordinator writing in an official LCJE publication. It is clear that LCJE are ecumenical in principle.”

The list of names on the petition includes:

Name:                Ruth Nessim   (Missionary in Israel)

Name:                Miguel Hayworth  (Firstplumbline Apologetics)

Name:                John Hayworth  (Firstplumbline Apologetics)                                                                 

Name:                J. Jacob Prasch   (Moriel Ministries’ International Director)                                                                

Name:                Keith Parker   (Prayer for Israel, UK)                                                                  

Name:               Geoffrey Toole   (Moriel Ministries, Japan)

Name:                Alan MacKenzie   (Road to Recovery Christian Fellowship)

Name:                Mark Van Niekerk   (www.hazorim.org www.messiah.com.es )

Name:               Roger Winter-Smith (Pastor of Stroud Green Christian Assembly)                                                                  

Name:                Chris De Wet  (Moriel Ministries, Bloemfontein, SA)

Name:                Jackie Alnor  (Host of Apostasy Alert on Rapture Ready Radio Network

Name:               Pastor Marco Quintana  (Pastor of the Community Church of Devore)

I just want to thank everyone who has signed the petition but we are far from satifactory in numbers, having only 56 names to date. Please help to promote the petition. Please pray for some of the hearts to be softened within LCJE. We probably won’t change the organisation itself but at least we can try to reach the ones and twos. If anyone has any questions or would like to make recommendations please contact me at msindisi@gmail.com . Please also consider posting on your social networking walls and on your websites.

Thank you so much for all your help.

Shalom in Yeshua.

Salvador Ung Hayworth

Urgent Request and update on the Petition to the LCJE

I would like to start by way of illustration:

A Christian radio host promotes a worship meeting of Evangelical Christians with a known Paedophile and leader of a pro-homosexual ‘Christian’ group. This man claims how this meeting is important this meeting is in breaking down walls in the Christian church and such a meeting celebrates the unity that Christ brings. When asked why such a man promotes a meeting with a known Paedophile and representative of the homosexual lobby the radio presenter denies ever having promoted anything of the kind. When presented with evidence that the  radio presenter did actually promote such a meeting he responds by saying that he was only reporting on the meeting, and he neither condones or condemns such a meeting. Can I ask you how you would respond? Would you say that such a radio presenter does not need to be called to account? What about all the children who have been abused? What about the liberalisation of scripture’s teaching on sexual matters? Would you not make a voice? I know that members of the Roman Catholic Church would!

However, the Roman Catholic Church is a false religion. It is a pseudo form of Christianity which believes that Mary is co-mediator with Christ when 1 Tim 2:5 states that there is only one mediator between God and man, the man Christ Jesus. There is no mediator between man and Jesus. The Roman Catholic Church (RCC) teach their members to pray to the dead saints which is necromancy, something that Deut 18:11 God denounces as an abomination or to put it in laymans terms, a disgusting thing. The RCC teach that the bread and wine of communion actually turn into the actually body and blood of Jesus and they worship it. Jesus is clear that we do this in rememberance of Him and we share in His sacrifice by believing in His word and obeying it. (cf John 6:55-58 with John 6:47). To worship a piece of bread as if it is Jesus is idolatry which is a sin God strongly hates. These are just a couple of examples. Mike Gendron makes the following comparison between Jesus and the bible and the RCC:

Jesus and His Word teach…

• You are saved by faith and not by works (Ephesians 2:8-9).
• All who rely on observing the law (commandments) are under a curse (Galations 3:10).
• Salvation occurs at the moment you believe the Gospel (Ephesians 1:13).
• Jesus purifies sin (Hebrews 1:3).
• You can know for sure you are saved (1 John 5:13).
• The sacrifice of Jesus is finished (John 19:30).

The Pope and his church teach…

• You are saved by faith plus works.
• Obedience to the commandments is a condition for salvation.
• Salvation is a process from baptism through purgatory.
• Purgatory purifies sin.
• You are condemned if you claim to be saved.
• The sacrifice of Jesus continues in daily Mass.

As you can see these two teachings directly oppose one another. You must make the choice as to which is true and which is deception. Your choice will determine your eternal destiny.

http://www.pro-gospel.org/articles/102-are-catholics-deceived

Thus Roman Catholicism is just as serious an issue as Homosexuality and Paedophilia.

The above illustration mirrors my actual experience with David Sedaca, Latin American co-ordinator of Lausanne Consultation for Jewish Evangelism (LCJE) a prestigious organisation which promotes Jewish Evangelism which includes some wonderful partners and members such as Jews for Jesus, Arnold Fruchtenbaum and Ariel Ministries, Tuvya Zaretsky, and Mitch Glaser with Chosen People Ministries. All have done some notably work in the body of Christ. However in LCJE’s newsletter “LCJE Bulletin 95″ David Sedaca praises an ecumenical gathering with a Roman Catholic Archbishop Monsignor Rivas of Saint Joseph Basilica as an important meeting which demonstrated the unity that Christ brings. David Sedaca claimed this explicitly. When I wrote to him privately to question him he did not respond. When I questioned again with witnesses he flatly denied having ever promoted any ecumenism. When I contacted him again stating the evidence, he claimed he was only reporting on the meeting and did not condone or condemn it. Surely brothers and sisters this is not good enough for a serious question directed at a serious issue? Do we let this go by in resignation or do we demand a better answer. By praising such an ecumenical meeting, promoting it and using it to speak of Christian unity and then failing to condemn it, does that not seem to you that he is in fact not condoning it but actively promoting it? (For details of our private correspondance please see the open letter which contains such private correspondance at:
http://lausannecje.wordpress.com/about/
 )

It is for this reason that I have put a petition together. I am hoping that with enough signatures LCJE will see that this is not a handful of trouble makers simply trying to stir up a nest but a genuine concern from a large section of the Evangelical Church. A genuine question needs a genuine answer. It is not good enough to ignore such a call to account. My name is Salvador Ung Hayworth. I am not in any discernment ministry. I am a missionary who shares the gospel with Zulu folk in South Africa and teach the Bible to Zulu, Afrikaans, Indian and English South Africans. (Our ministry website is www.kwazulumission.com ) I am not searching for every ministries piece of dirt. I believe in the purity of the gospel and the need to withstand compromise on the gospel which is the call of every Christian in Christ’s body.

The reason why my petition is important is because other people have contacted representatives of LCJE with similar questions and had their emails ignored. I have recieved correspondance of someone who explicitly promoted an ecumenical meeting as important and then refuses to condemn ecumenism. This is not simply a member of the LCJE network, this is a co-ordinator writing in an official LCJE publication. It is clear that LCJE are ecumenical in principle.

In my petition I have up to now had 39 signatures including Jacob Prasch of Moriel Ministries, Geoff Toole of Moriel Japan, Chris De Wet of Moriel in Bloemfontein, South Africa, Mark Van Niekerk of Hazorim, Roger Winter-Smith of Christian Witness Ministries, UK, Keith Parker of Prayer for Israel in the UK, representatives of First-Plumbline ministries and other individuals. We are all from different ministries and churches but we have seen the importance to sign a petition like this so that even if we cannot change LCJE we can save some of its members from ecumenical compromise. It is my hope that through this petition and other peoples efforts we will make the danger of ecumenical compromise an unavoidable issue to our evangelical people.

If you desire to sign the Petition please click on the following link:

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/lcje/

Please forward this message on to as many people as possible.

Shalom,

Salvador.

Please Sign the Following Petition

I have put together an online petition. Over the next several months I am seeking to get enough signatures to have copies of this petition presented to some of the coordinators of LCJE to plead with them to renounce and denounce any promotion of ecumenism, and to guarantee their abstinence from any participation in ecumenical meetings, networks or partnerships with any Roman Catholic Congregations and/or officials and clergy man. The Petition reads as follows:

“Dear LCJE, in regards to the open letter written to David Sedaca and to your organisation which can be read at the following public website http://www.lausannecje.wordpress.com we as Christians from various evangelical churches and ministries, as believers who hold that the purity of the gospel should be held without any compromise with those groups and ministers who hold to a different gospel, call on the LCJE to publically correct its promotion of ecumenism in its bulletin (as promoted by David Sedaca in bulletin number 95 – as addressed in the open letter). We also request the public denunciation of ecumenicism and request guarantees that LCJE will not engage in any ecumenical partnership or unity or meetings with Roman Catholic congregations or with Roman Catholic Officials or clergymen. For the love of the Truth of the Gospel we appeal to you to make a stand for the Lord requires it of you. Shalom in Yeshua. “

If you would like to sign the petition please click on the following link and please forward this to as many people and churches as possible. Every signature is important. If you would like to contact me my email address is msindisi@gmail.com

Shalom in Yeshua,

Salvador

Petition: www.ipetitions.com/petition/lcje